{"id":277,"date":"2015-09-24T00:15:30","date_gmt":"2015-09-23T21:15:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/?p=277"},"modified":"2015-09-24T00:26:36","modified_gmt":"2015-09-23T21:26:36","slug":"sr-nordul-pierdut","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/sr-nordul-pierdut\/","title":{"rendered":"Unde r\u0103sare soarele la Sarmizegetusa Regia? (\u00een c\u0103utarea nordului pierdut)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Poate p\u0103rea de necrezut, dar timp de 65 de ani, arheologii de la Sarmizegetusa Regia nu au reu\u0219it\u00a0s\u0103 determine nordul pentru situl c\u0103ruia i-au dedicat, se presupune, o via\u021b\u0103 de cercet\u0103ri. Nordul lor nu are o aproxima\u021bie de 2-3 grade. Nordul lor are <em>o eroare de aproape 45 de grade spre est<\/em>, de\u0219i situl a beneficiat de cel pu\u021bin trei ridic\u0103ri topografice de maxim\u0103 precizie. Cum a fost posibil? \u0218i cum de e posibil \u00een continuare?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><!--more-->La \u00eenceputul sec. al XIX-lea, arheologul maghiar Fin\u00e1ly Gabor elabora primul plan corect al dealului Muncelului, cu amplasarea cet\u0103\u021bii. Conturul fortifica\u021biei era foarte corect, iar nordul, evident, \u00een direc\u021bia \u00een care\u00a0trebuie. D.M. Teodorescu venea \u0219i el, dou\u0103 decenii mai t\u00e2rziu, cu un topograf maghiar din Or\u0103\u0219tie, \u0219i publica un plan par\u021bial al ruinelor: contur precis al fortifica\u021biei, nord corect.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen 1951 C. Daicoviciu public\u0103 un plan al fortifica\u021biei f\u0103cut \u201ela ochi\u201d, cu conturul foarte aproximativ\u00a0\u00een sfertul sud-vestic \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 indicarea nordului. Planul a f\u0103cut carier\u0103 \u0219i este folosit \u0219i ast\u0103zi, \u201e\u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bit\u201d de c\u0103tre Ioan Glodariu, care i-a pus \u00eent\u00e2i un nord gre\u0219it cu 15 grade spre vest, apoi un altul, gre\u0219it cu 45 de grade spre est (o varia\u021bie de 60 de grade &#8211; o nimica toat\u0103 pentru cel mai important sit arheologic din Rom\u00e2nia). Regresul este evident. Conturul a r\u0103mas la fel de gre\u0219it, \u00een ciuda faptului c\u0103 \u00eentre timp s-au f\u0103cut cel pu\u021bin trei ridic\u0103ri topografice, pe bani mul\u021bi, pl\u0103ti\u021bi din buzunarele noastre de contribuabili, m\u0103sur\u0103tori care au furnizat date precise, dar nu au fost niciodat\u0103 utilizate sau publicate. Glodariu s-a pensionat; de vreo 6-7 ani a venit o echip\u0103 nou\u0103, am intrat \u00een mileniul super-tehnologiilor, avem imagini satelitare, ortofotoplanuri, scanare Lidar, dar se folosesc acelea\u0219i planuri pr\u0103fuite, gre\u0219ite, mo\u0219tenite din 1950. Iar \u00een 2011 s-au dat bani pentru \u00eenc\u0103 o ridicare topografic\u0103.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_475\" style=\"width: 764px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1983-si-1996.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-475\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-475\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1983-si-1996-1024x710.jpg\" alt=\"glodariu 1983 si 1996\" width=\"754\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1983-si-1996-1024x710.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1983-si-1996-300x208.jpg 300w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1983-si-1996-88x60.jpg 88w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1983-si-1996.jpg 1074w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 754px) 100vw, 754px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-475\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Glodariu 1983 (st\u00e2nga) \u0219i Glodariu 1996 (dreapta). Cu ro\u0219u, corecturi \u00een baza ridic\u0103rii topo din 1979<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Planul fortifica\u021biei, care reprezint\u0103, \u00een opinia mea, una dintre cele mai mari b\u0103t\u0103i de joc din istoria cercet\u0103rilor de la Sarmizegetusa Regia (mai sunt \u0219i altele), troneaz\u0103 de patru ani la intrarea \u00een incinta monumentului UNESCO \u0219i reprezint\u0103 <em>planul actual oficial<\/em>, a\u0219a cum rezult\u0103 \u0219i din <a href=\"http:\/\/cetati-dacice.ro\/ro\/situri\/sarmizegetusa-regia\/obiective-arheologice\" target=\"_blank\">site-ul web <\/a>oficial al colectivului \u201eCet\u0103\u021bile dacice din Mun\u021bii Or\u0103\u0219tiei\u201d, dar \u0219i din faptul c\u0103 este amplasat la intrarea \u00een sit prin grija aceleia\u0219i echipe \u0219i cu concursul Administra\u021biei sitului.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_484\" style=\"width: 646px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/plan-sarmi-panou.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-484\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-484\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/plan-sarmi-panou-1024x788.jpg\" alt=\"Panou la intrarea \u00een sit, cu nordul gre\u0219it\" width=\"636\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/plan-sarmi-panou-1024x788.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/plan-sarmi-panou-300x231.jpg 300w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/plan-sarmi-panou.jpg 1039w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-484\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Panou la intrarea \u00een sit, cu nordul \u0219i conturul gre\u0219it (cu ro\u0219u, corecturile mele)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Iat\u0103 \u0219i o captur\u0103 de imagine din site-ul oficial.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/captura-cetati-dacice-sarminord.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-901\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/captura-cetati-dacice-sarminord-1024x602.jpg\" alt=\"captura cetati dacice sarminord\" width=\"1024\" height=\"602\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/captura-cetati-dacice-sarminord-1024x602.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/captura-cetati-dacice-sarminord-300x177.jpg 300w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/captura-cetati-dacice-sarminord-1080x635.jpg 1080w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/captura-cetati-dacice-sarminord.jpg 1783w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u0218i o suprapunere a planului oficial pe Google Earth, ca s\u0103 fie clar:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_897\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-897\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-897 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/planuri2-1024x470.jpg\" alt=\"planuri2\" width=\"1024\" height=\"470\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/planuri2-1024x470.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/planuri2-300x138.jpg 300w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/planuri2-1080x496.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-897\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Planul oficial suprapus pe Google Earth<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Gre\u0219eala a fost semnalat\u0103 prima oar\u0103 \u00een 2005, de c\u0103tre A.S. Stefan, \u00een cartea sa dedicat\u0103 r\u0103zboaielor daco-romane. Apoi a fost semnalat\u0103 de mine \u00een mai multe\u00a0r\u00e2nduri (\u00een dou\u0103 articole publicate \u00een 2013, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/5291111\/A._Pe%C8%9Ban_Sarmizegetusa_Regia_in_the_Austrian_map_of_1804_ReDIVA_I_2013_p._29-34_\" target=\"_blank\">AICI <\/a>\u0219i <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/5351021\/A._Pe%C8%9Ban_The_water_supply_of_Sarmizegetusa_Regias_precinct_ArheoVest_I_2013_p._241-252_\" target=\"_blank\">AICI<\/a>, cu o corec\u021bie a planului \u00een alt articol publicat \u00een acela\u0219i an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/5351021\/A._Pe%C8%9Ban_The_water_supply_of_Sarmizegetusa_Regias_precinct_ArheoVest_I_2013_p._241-252_\" target=\"_blank\">AICI<\/a>; \u00een 2014 am renun\u021bat la planul lui Glodariu, fie \u0219i corectat, utiliz\u00e2nd ridicarea topo din 1979, vezi <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/8177839\/A._Pe%C8%9Ban_An_unknown_stone_structure_in_Sarmizegetusa_Regias_sacred_zone_recorded_in_writings_of_19th_century_ReDIVA_II_2014_p._28-40_\" target=\"_blank\">AICI<\/a>; \u00eentr-un articol din 2015 mi-am construit propriul plan,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/10166678\/A._Pe%C8%9Ban_Drumul_pavat_de_la_Sarmizegetusa_Regia_Rapoartele_CSFD_3_2015_p._34-59_\" target=\"_blank\">AICI<\/a>). Evident, f\u0103r\u0103 nici o reac\u021bie. Am discutat problema mai \u00een detaliu \u00eentr-un studiu amplu, intitulat <em>\u201e\u00cen c\u0103utarea nordului pierdut. 200 de ani de cartografie la Sarmizegetusa Regia\u201d<\/em>, publicat \u00een februarie 2015, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/11052631\/A._Pe%C8%9Ban_%C3%8En_c%C4%83utarea_nordului_pierdut._Dou%C4%83_secole_de_cartografie_la_Sarmizegetusa_Regia_Rapoartele_CSFD_5_2015_p._84-122_\" target=\"_blank\">AICI<\/a>. \u00cen luna mai a aceluia\u0219i an, am prezentat aceste informa\u021bii la un simpozion organizat de Institutul de Arheologie din Cluj-Napoca.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Am spus cele de mai sus ca s\u0103 ar\u0103t c\u0103 cei\u00a0care r\u0103spund de acest sit nu se pot scuza c\u0103 n-au \u0219tiut (c\u0103 nordul lor e la dracu-n praznic). Ei \u0219tiu foarte bine, doar c\u0103 nordul a fost stabilit de \u00eenainta\u0219i \u0219i \u201etradi\u021bia\u201d trebuie respectat\u0103.\u00a0La care se adaug\u0103, probabil, orgoliul: e greu s\u0103 recuno\u0219ti c\u0103 ai gre\u0219it \u00een halul \u0103sta, at\u00e2\u021bia ani la r\u00e2nd.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ah, nu am spus nimic despre planul zonei sacre: acolo eroarea este de \u201edoar\u201d 15 grade:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_477\" style=\"width: 742px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1996-florea-2011.png\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-477\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-477 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1996-florea-2011.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"457\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1996-florea-2011.png 732w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/glodariu-1996-florea-2011-300x187.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-477\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Planul zonei sacre, dup\u0103 I. Glodariu (1996) \u0219i G. Florea (2011). Cu ro\u0219u, corectura mea dup\u0103 ridicarea topo din 1979<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Desigur, unii le-ar putea g\u0103si o scuz\u0103: c\u0103 e omene\u0219te s\u0103 gre\u0219e\u0219ti (chiar \u0219i decenii la r\u00e2nd), c\u0103 nu to\u021bi pricep ce e aia o ridicare topografic\u0103 \u0219i, deci, nu le folose\u0219te la nimic, c\u0103 nu to\u021bi au auzit de Google Earth, c\u0103 nu se vede bine mu\u0219chiul de pe copaci&#8230; Dar cercet\u0103rile acestea, conduse de profesori universitari, sunt finan\u021bate, de decenii, din banii contribuabilului, care are dreptul m\u0103car s\u0103 \u0219tie unde r\u0103sare soarele la Sarmizegetusa Regia c\u00e2nd viziteaz\u0103 acel sit. Sit \u00eenscris \u00een Patrimoniul Mondial UNESCO. Nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 am subliniat asta suficient. Nu, nu e biserica din Cucuie\u021bii din Deal, cu un panou\u00a0f\u0103cut de popa din sat. E SARMIZEGETUSA REGIA.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>BONUS<\/strong><\/span>: ca s\u0103 vede\u021bi c\u0103 nu e vorba de o gre\u0219eal\u0103 izolat\u0103, de o sc\u0103pare nevinovat\u0103, v\u0103 ar\u0103t \u0219i planurile oficiale ale cet\u0103\u021bilor Coste\u0219ti-Cet\u0103\u021buie \u0219i Coste\u0219ti-Blidaru, capturi de imagine din\u00a0acela\u0219i site web oficial, suprapuse pe Google Earth (pentru ambele\u00a0exist\u0103 \u0219i ridic\u0103ri topo, neutilizate de arheologi): primul are o eroare a nordului de 32 de grade, cel\u0103lalt de \u201edoar\u201d 26 de grade.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/blidaru-suprapus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-898\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/suprapunere-costesti-GEb.jpg\" alt=\"suprapunere costesti GEb\" width=\"854\" height=\"968\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/suprapunere-costesti-GEb.jpg 854w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/suprapunere-costesti-GEb-265x300.jpg 265w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 854px) 100vw, 854px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/blidaru-suprapus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-899\" src=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/blidaru-suprapus.jpg\" alt=\"blidaru suprapus\" width=\"825\" height=\"729\" srcset=\"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/blidaru-suprapus.jpg 825w, http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/blidaru-suprapus-300x265.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 825px) 100vw, 825px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ce voiam s\u0103 spun, de fapt. Am plecat \u00eentr-un miez de iarn\u0103 la Sarmizegetusa Regia cu noaptea-n cap, \u00een vremea c\u00e2nd \u00eenc\u0103 aveai voie s\u0103 intri \u00een sit la orice or\u0103. Voiam s\u0103 v\u0103d cum r\u0103sare soarele \u00een zona sacr\u0103. \u0218i pot s\u0103 confirm, ba mai mult, chiar doresc s\u0103 transmit pe aceast\u0103 cale arheologilor care patroneaz\u0103 situl \u0219i Administra\u021biei,\u00a0c\u0103 soarele\u00a0r\u0103sare \u00een alt\u0103 parte. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Poate p\u0103rea de necrezut, dar timp de 65 de ani, arheologii de la Sarmizegetusa Regia nu au reu\u0219it\u00a0s\u0103 determine nordul pentru situl c\u0103ruia i-au dedicat, se presupune, o via\u021b\u0103 de cercet\u0103ri. Nordul lor nu are o aproxima\u021bie de 2-3 grade. Nordul lor are o eroare de aproape 45 de grade spre est, de\u0219i situl a&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":895,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[16,6],"tags":[42,43,18,7,9,8,68,67,5],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=277"}],"version-history":[{"count":46,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":916,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277\/revisions\/916"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/895"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=277"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=277"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dacica.ro\/aurora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=277"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}